Osho...citaty, uvahy...je Zivot kosmicky zert? Na cem se bavime my? - Diskuze a zkušenosti

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Mela jsem to dat jazykoveho koutka, omlouvam se.
Bohuzel, ja mam temer vsechny knihy v anglictine.
Je tu vic lidi, kteri pidou anglicky-tak pro ne je to urcene, nemam cas to prekladat.
Anglictina je universalni jazyk.
Jeste jednou, promin

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Raději čtu příspěvky v rodném jazyce. Je pravda, že nemusím přispívat, ale ani číst texty v anglickém jazyce. Dokonce v některých diskuzích na jiných domácích web. stránkách admin, tyto "jazykově nadané jedince" maže. Skus poslat někomu v zemích mluvících anglicky článek ve slovenštině. Pokud Ti to vyhovuje a ostatním, je to v pořádku. Dávám přednost překladu. Ostatně všechny knihy od Osha jsou z 95% přeloženy.

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Mozno jednym z viacerych...

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Oui
Osho is a mystical contemporary one of which life and the teachings influenced millions of people of all ages and of all origins. The Sunday Times of London describes it as the key of the "1000 eminent creators" and the Sunday mid-day (India) as moon of the ten personalities - with Gandhi, Nehru and Buddha - that changed the destiny of India.

Talking about his Work, Osho said about his work he contributed, create the conditions favorable the birth of new human type. It often defined this new man as "Zorba the Buddha" - able to savor the time the earthly pleasures of Zorba the Greek and silent serenity of Gautama Buddha. The conducting wire that crosses all the aspects of all work, Osho is a vision that includes just as well eternal wisdom of Orient as the potential vast science and technology of "Occident"...present...
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Nemusis sem prispivat

Bosch (* 8.1.1968)
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Osho is Buddha

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Dik

Bosch (* 8.1.1968)
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Excellent

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Za toto sa nepodpisem..i jogini maju zaujem o to,akym sposobom sa menia kvality existencie bytia.. Mozu vsak zvolit nevyhovujuce metody.
Chce to spravne "operovat" so zivotnou silou
Spravny postup sa zaklada na tom, ze clovek, ktory tuzi po poznani obrati pozornost k telu ako skutocnosti, ktoru identifikuju zmysly.

Minarik,SPASA, STR 56-

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Osho est un mystique contemporain dont la vie et les enseignements ont influencé des millions de gens de tous âges et de toutes provenances. Le Sunday Times de Londres l´a décrit comme l´un des "1000 créateurs du;cle" et le Sunday Mid-Day (Inde) comme l´une des dix personnalités - avec Gandhi, Nehru et Bouddha - qui ont changé le destin de l´Inde.

Parlant de son Travail, Osho a dit qu´il contribue; créer les conditions propices la naissance d´un nouveau type;tre humain. Il a souvent défini cet homme nouveau comme "Zorba le Bouddha" - capable de savourer la fois les plaisirs terrestres d´un Zorba le Grec et la sérénité silencieuse d´un Gautama Bouddha. Le fil conducteur qui traverse tous les aspects de l´oeuvre d´Osho est une vision qui inclut aussi bien la sagesse éternelle de l´Orient que le vaste potentiel de la science et de la technologie de l´Occident.
Parler français?

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Tiez pridam od Osha nieco :

Gautama buddha hovorieval : „zrodenie je bolest,zivot je bolesť,smrt je bolesť.Mienil tym,ze pohybovat sa v horizontalnej línii znamena neustale trpieť a znasat bolesť.Zivot tak nemuze byt radostou a tancom.Ku stejnemu zaveru dosla i zapadna existencialisticka filozofia – že zivot nema zmysel.A na horizontalnej linii opravdu zmysel nemá,lebo predstavuje neustalu agoniu,bolest,nemoc a starnutie.

Akonahle objavíte vertikalu,zacnete sa po nej pohybovať.Pohyb po vertikale neznamena ze sa musíte zriect sveta a schovat sa tak do hor.Znamena proste to,ze nie ste jeho sucastou,ze svet stratí svoj vyznam a stane sa pre vas okrajovou zalezitostou.Zacnete tak – nech ste kdekolvek – zit vnutornym zivotom,ktory vam bol doposial nedostupny.

Budete vo svete,ale svet nebude vo vás.

Na horizontalnej rovine existuju len samí zobraci,pretoze vsetci sa len stale za niecim nahanaju,za niecim dalsim a nikdy im to nestací.Predstava „mat viac“ unika naplneniu.Je nenaplnitelna vo svojej podstate.taka je horizontalna uroven,uroven kde existuje viac,viac a viac.

Co je vertikala ? Je to menej,menej a menej az do naprostej prazdnoty,az pokial nie ste nikto.Len podpis – a nie je to podpis v piesku,len na hladine vody,takze zmizne,sotva ste ho stacili napisať.

Na vertikalnej rovine je clovek pravym sanjasinom,ktoreho nesmierne tesí byt nikým.Nesmierne ho tesí cistota prazdnoty vo vlastnom vnutri,pretoze len prazdnota moze byt cistá – taký clovek je v naprostom sulade zo svojou nahotou,pretoze jedine nicota moze najist sulad z vesmírom.

Akonahle pocitite takyto sulad s vesmirom,v istom zmysle prestanete existovať – prestanete existovat v starom slova zmysle.Po prvy krat sa vsak stanete celym vesmirom.

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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9. When I was saying last night that life is a game, a play, and God is playing this whole cosmic joke, one friend immediately wrote a letter saying that it cannot be conceived that Jesus being crucified is just God´s play. The crucifixion of Jesus cannot be conceived of as just God´s play, it must have some purpose. The question is not whether any particular thing has some purpose or not, the question is whether the whole has a purpose or not. You are here. You had a purpose in coming here, that I know; without purpose you would not be here.

Jesus may have had a purpose, or you may think that he had a purpose. Christians may think that he had a purpose -- salvation was the purpose, to liberate humanity from the sin that Adam committed was the purpose. But this is your thinking. If Jesus is enlightened he cannot have any purpose, because purpose belongs to ignorance. He can only be in a play. And if he also thinks that whatsoever he is doing is very serious, purposive, then he belongs to the same business mind as you.

And the whole, the cosmos, cannot have any purpose, because purpose means something outside. There is nothing outside the whole. And whenever we think that God must have some purpose we are talking in deep absurdities, because if God has any purpose, he is omnipotent so he can do it immediately. Why waste so much time? If he has only this purpose -- that man should reach heaven -- he can simply order, "Go to heaven!"...

because when he can say, "Let there be light," and there is light; when he can say, "Let there be the world," and the world is there, then why can´t he say, "Let there be only heaven," so that everybody is in heaven? Then why this whole nonsense of Adam committing sin, then Jesus helping people? Why this nonsense? Purpose is absurd in terms of the total. Purpose may exist for individual egos because egos cannot exist without purpose, but for the cosmic there is no ego. It cannot be anything else than a cosmic play.

Even Jesus´ crucifixion is a play. That´s why Jesus can go to the crucifixion so easily, not disturbed, as if it is just a drama, as if he is just acting a role. The man of knowledge is just an actor enacting a role. What is going to be the result is not his concern. Whatsoever the result, everything is good. There is neither good nor bad, there is neither in nor out, there is neither beginning nor end -- but this happens only when you have disappeared.

10. You see a person and you smile. You smile for him. One should smile only for oneself. If others share, good. If nobody shares, good. But one should smile of one´s own accord. One should not laugh to make somebody else happy, because if you are not happy, you cannot make anybody happy. Even if you are happy, it is very difficult to make somebody else happy because it depends on that somebody else as to whether he will accept it or not. One should simply laugh of one´s own accord, and one should not wait for reasons to laugh. That too is absurd. Why wait for reasons? Life as it is should be enough of a reason to laugh. It is so absurd, it is so ridiculous. It is so beautiful... it is so wonderful. It is all sorts of things together. It is a great cosmic JOKE

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Osho nema zle myslienky.Nabada ludí k tomu,aby si vazili slobody ako najvyssej hodnoty.A nepachtili sa za svetskymi zalezitostami.

Tulinka3 (* 24.7.1963)
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Teraz pocuvam video od osho a nazor na manzelstvo.Dokonca sa tam vysmieva z boha a splodenia jezisa.Tento clovek ta oslovil Janko?

Tulinka3 (* 24.7.1963)
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Teraz pocuvam video od osho a nazor na manzelstvo.Dokonca sa tam vysmieva z boha a splodenia jezisa.Tento clovek ta oslovil Janko?

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Tiez pridam od Osha nieco :

Gautama buddha hovorieval : „zrodenie je bolest,zivot je bolesť,smrt je bolesť.Mienil tym,ze pohybovat sa v horizontalnej línii znamena neustale trpieť a znasat bolesť.Zivot tak nemuze byt radostou a tancom.Ku stejnemu zaveru dosla i zapadna existencialisticka filozofia – že zivot nema zmysel.A na horizontalnej linii opravdu zmysel nemá,lebo predstavuje neustalu agoniu,bolest,nemoc a starnutie.

Akonahle objavíte vertikalu,zacnete sa po nej pohybovať.Pohyb po vertikale neznamena ze sa musíte zriect sveta a schovat sa tak do hor.Znamena proste to,ze nie ste jeho sucastou,ze svet stratí svoj vyznam a stane sa pre vas okrajovou zalezitostou.Zacnete tak – nech ste kdekolvek – zit vnutornym zivotom,ktory vam bol doposial nedostupny.

Budete vo svete,ale svet nebude vo vás.

Na horizontalnej rovine existuju len samí zobraci,pretoze vsetci sa len stale za niecim nahanaju,za niecim dalsim a nikdy im to nestací.Predstava „mat viac“ unika naplneniu.Je nenaplnitelna vo svojej podstate.taka je horizontalna uroven,uroven kde existuje viac,viac a viac.

Co je vertikala ? Je to menej,menej a menej az do naprostej prazdnoty,az pokial nie ste nikto.Len podpis – a nie je to podpis v piesku,len na hladine vody,takze zmizne,sotva ste ho stacili napisať.

Na vertikalnej rovine je clovek pravym sanjasinom,ktoreho nesmierne tesí byt nikým.Nesmierne ho tesí cistota prazdnoty vo vlastnom vnutri,pretoze len prazdnota moze byt cistá – taký clovek je v naprostom sulade zo svojou nahotou,pretoze jedine nicota moze najist sulad z vesmírom.

Akonahle pocitite takyto sulad s vesmirom,v istom zmysle prestanete existovať – prestanete existovat v starom slova zmysle.Po prvy krat sa vsak stanete celym vesmirom.

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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5. Everybody takes himself and others seriously. That´s the way of the ego to exist. Start being a little more playful and you will see ego evaporating. Take life non seriously, as a joke -- yes, as a cosmic joke. Laugh a little more. Laughter is far more significant than prayer. Prayer may not destroy your ego; on the contrary, it may make it holy, pious, but laughter certainly destroys your ego. When you are really in a state of laughter, have you observed? -- the ego disappears for a moment. You are again a child, giggling. Again you have forgotten that you are special. You are no longer serious; for a moment you have removed your fixation.

That´s why I love jokes -- they are poison to your ego! You would like me to talk about serious things: astral planes and how many bodies men have, seven or nine, and how many chakras. And every day there are questions -- esoteric, occult. These are the serious people. They have fallen in a wrong company! I am not serious at all. I don´t laugh with you because that is part of telling a joke: the person who tells it has to be very serious, he cannot laugh with you. All my laughter I have to do alone.

But my approach towards life is utterly nonserious, playful, because in my experience this is how the ego disappears. Watch when you laugh: where is the ego? Suddenly you have melted, suddenly you are liquid, no more solid, but flowing. You are not old, experienced, knowledgeable. Listen to this joke and try to find out whether the ego remains or not.

BUDEME SE VIC HRAT A SMAT?

bobina28 (* 6.10.1983)
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Yeah, what else should we have left? There is always a laugh at the end of everything.

ivy7 (* 30.10.1967)
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Zertuje s nani Buh? Toz se smejme s nim

When one becomes enlightened, laughter is almost a natural by-product; spontaneously it comes -- for the simple reason that we have been searching and searching for lives for something which was already there inside. Our whole effort was ridiculous! Our whole effort was absurd. One laughs at the great cosmic joke. One laughs at the sense of humor that God must have or the existence: that we have it with us already and we are searching for it. One laughs at one´s own ridiculous efforts, long long journeys, pilgrimages, for something which was never lost in the first place.

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